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Humiliated at Potbelly (and other cheerful stories of learning humility on the path to living one’s life purpose)
As a child, Segun Olagunju prayed for wisdom, which is the only thing that can explain a 20-something recognizing that if he’s going to make a difference in the world (Nigeria, in particular), he’s going to work backwards from being a 50-something changemaker in 2035. Setting out on a 30-year journey to learn business, leadership, French and return to his home country strategically, Segun realizes the path is anything but straight. Worse, it’s anything but *forward.* Through a series of humbling experiences (“only out of humiliation comes humility,” he says), Segun learns that if you’re pursuing a meaningful purpose in life, these setbacks are minor blips—and even…
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An Accidental Rant on Christianity with a Kind, Patient, Open-minded Pastor Who Took it Well
Most of the time on the Interesting Lives of Normal People, we try to dig into the stories of our guests to find out what they’re all about, what’s been on their mind, and what they ‘just need to get out into the world.’ This podcast turned out to be a bit of the reverse. In this episode with Dr. David Burke, mentor and friend of Jake’s, and a long-time pastor, it’s as though we were the ones doing the sharing. Especially about the church and American Christianity today. Surprise, surprise: talking about Christianity and the church (*during COVID*) struck some nerves and David opened up the space for us…
Great stories come from good questions
