• Episode,  Guest,  Podcast,  Season 1

    Humiliated at Potbelly (and other cheerful stories of learning humility on the path to living one’s life purpose)

    As a child, Segun Olagunju prayed for wisdom, which is the only thing that can explain a 20-something recognizing that if he’s going to make a difference in the world (Nigeria, in particular), he’s going to work backwards from being a 50-something changemaker in 2035.    Setting out on a 30-year journey to learn business, leadership, French and return to his home country strategically, Segun realizes the path is anything but straight.    Worse, it’s anything but *forward.*    Through a series of humbling experiences (“only out of humiliation comes humility,” he says), Segun learns that if you’re pursuing a meaningful purpose in life, these setbacks are minor blips—and even…

  • Podcast,  Season 1

    How to Use Our Amazing Brains in Our Longing for Meaning

    In our second episode, we talk to Dr. Jessica Stern, a Child and Adolescent Psychologist. She has spent many hours sitting with people, helping them sort through what is true in their life, and guiding them as they name what they want to be true.  We asked Dr. Stern to help us discuss passion and the longing for meaningful work. In this conversation, we cover passion projects, the drive to make a difference in the world, what drives people on a journey to create – like this podcast – and why people often fail in their endeavors.  It’s a privilege to have the opportunity to pursue projects of passion. Dr.…

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